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The thoughts and views on THFC updated daily from Jim Duggan – Born in the year of the Cockerel, Shelfside season ticket holder, White Hart Lane resident & supporter since the early 1970s (last updated 02/08/02 9:30 AM)

 

28th July 2002 – Sometimes in this summer sunshine the world looks down on us

 

Same old Same old - re-affirmation of plans – With so much of the negotiations between manager, club and now players, being done in the press, the official site have sought to re-affirm the plans of THFC & Hoddle has been quoted as saying:

 

"We're going about our business behind the scenes and it goes without saying if we can improve the squad, we will. That is what the board and myself are always working towards. I'm working with the board all the time and Daniel (Levy, chairman) and I are in daily contact. It's no different from last season, we are looking to improve the squad if we can. We've got a few youngsters on trial and, sure, we looking for striker but we'll only buy if we think it's right for the club. There is a new scenario as well. We have a transfer window to oblige to now and go past August 31 and your squad is your squad.

 

Sensible but hardly inspiring stuff when the increasingly unsettled fans need a lift & I think the club should come out and stand up for THFC in the press.

 

Beyond the immediate ship steadying, a period of external calm is called for. All this crap – however truthful it is, is not going to lower the price of Phillips & they must learn to keep all this private. This is where we need strong leadership in the boardroom. Someone aught to give Phillips and his agent an ultimatum – ask for a transfer and help out THFC or fuck off remain forgotten near Scotland forever.

 

The next issue is a difficult one – on one hand I back Hoddle all the way and support the ENIC’s statement that they will back him all the way BUT, I wish he’d be a little more flexible about who he could work with at the club.

 

There are a lot of things we don’t know about personalities and how players work with different player – but there has to be more strikers in the world that can be the finisher Spurs are looking for. Surely one or preferably two from Phillips, Keane, Fowler, Agahowa, Gudjohnsen and even Hasawank can work with the great man at Spurs.

 

While £ for £ Phillips is a much better player than Richards, the similarities between a player at a little club that Hod wants where no-one else is interested are the same, and no matter what happens, we cannot allow Sunderland to screw £12m out of us for Phillips in a market where Yorke went for £2m on Friday. The best solution would be to get Phillips to ask for a transfer, the next option would be to move on as Spurs can ill afford another Richards where the players value falls to 25% as soon as he moves. Remember Spurs record sale remains Gazza or Piggy Barmby at a measly £5.5ish, reflecting the poor quality of our purchases for far too long.

 

Reading between the lines, it appears that to fund the extra between what we are offering Sunderland and what they want, Anderton is being used as bait for Leeds. My own views on Anderton aside, this is completely the wrong way to go about things. Swapping Anderton for Boateng, who has moved to Boro for £5m would have made sense to us Anderton doubters and given us a player that is younger and a better central midfielder. But selling Anderton to fund a over priced 29 year old striker is not on & Hod is right to kick off over this issue.

 

It really is time for the words to be over – sort this f**king mess out behind closed doors – and come back when you have two strikers at a decent price, that Hoddle will work with and that are going to score at the rate of at least one in two. No more put a pony in my pocket, I’ll get a suitcase from the van, I’m bored with this shit.

 

Right in the Shittu – A second division team known as Quarter Pounda Rubbish have turned over THFC in a friendly in the West London sunshine. Well done to Ronnie Henry getting his first senior goal, but what a pile of shite. If you can’t laugh at QPR…..

Spurs: Sullivan, Carr, Thatcher, Redknapp, Perry, O'Donoghue (Henry, 11), Davies, Iversen, Doherty, Acimovic, Etherington.

28th July 2002 – Deadwood Comments

 

Timmah! – Sherwood has broken ranks and spilled his guts to the News of the Screws with an accurate assessment of some of the problems & contradictions at THFC at the moment. Before we get carried away with the honesty of Sherwood, I think it is worth remembering that he has not done this out of the goodness of his heart and is most certainly NOT a Spurs fan all his life.

 

So you have to speculate why he is using this sensitive time to stir some shit, and when it comes to shit, Sherwood would be well at home. It is also probably not the first time he has used the press to cause problems at the club, as it is widely rumoured as the source of the “bonuses” row that broke at the start of last season. As well as going on about his boyhood team the Goons; there are also unnecessary digs at Hoddle that sour the piece. Lets not have any revisionism about Timmah after this piece; he was, is and remains a twat (albeit a decent player in his prime back in the mid 90’s).

 

Ignoring his intentions, most of the points made are mostly all accurate & hopefully it adds to the pressure on the board to realise that no-one is going to swallow the 5 year plan crap and settle for mediocrity as a feeder club:

 

"We are a million miles away from winning the Championship because no money has been made available to buy the top stars that you need to become genuine challengers. I'm talking about players in their prime, at their peak — the ones who can make the difference.  I can't believe Hoddle knew it would be like this when he took the job, and if he did, then I'm surprised he hasn't been stronger. I would certainly be disappointed that a man of his stature and reputation seems willing to accept such a situation.

 

"Remember, Hoddle is an ex-England manager who knows the game inside out, a coach of the highest calibre. So he knows that he needs to bring in some real stars, top players who are at their peak, if we are to genuinely challenge for honours. He also knows that this will take money, big money. And I believe that if he is given that money, and the free rein that other managers at top clubs are allowed, then he will bring success to Spurs.

 

"That's why I think Hoddle should be confronting the club's owners and asking for the investment that we need. He should be telling them to speculate to accumulate like the truly big clubs like Manchester United, Liverpool and, dare I say it, Arsenal.  He certainly needs to find out if they will back him and his judgement or if they are simply content for the club to remain Premiership no-hopers when it comes to winning the title.

 

"Are they happy to remain a once great club that's basically reduced to breeding players and then selling them on to more ambitious clubs? That's certainly not what the fans want-I know I'm a Tottenham fan myself and so are a lot of my friends.  So let's have the truth.  Maybe Hoddle already knows the answers, maybe he's already been told. Who knows? Only time will tell."

http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/sport/sport1.html

27th July 2002 – Time to chill

 

Hod’s denial – After the report in the Daily Express – the Club and Hoddle have come out with this statement:

Glenn has reacted angrily to a story in Saturday's Express suggesting he may quit unless we buy Kevin Phillips.

Glenn responded: "The story couldn't be more way off line. It's total rubbish. There is no problem whatsoever between the board and myself and we are working together on all aspects of the club's development.

"I have not even spoken to the journalist concerned."

 

Time to chill!

 

I should imagine that like the rest of us – Hod wants to see some action and I should imagine ENIC are doing their bit behind the scenes (they’d better be), but quite clearly these two parties need to have a sit down and a clear the air, as there appears to be a bit of tension which needs to be resolved.

 

The only way it will be truly resolved is when Phillips is lining up in a Spurs shirt after paying less than £8m for him – and Phillips could help everyone out now by asking for a transfer, as with Yorke going for £2m Spurs could get him for even less than we are currently offering – and what Phillips misses in his 10% I’m sure everyone at THFC would be more than pleased to give him back as a signing on bonus.

 

The Klinsmann signing? – There has been a lot of talk of a “Klinsmann” type signing to “appease” the fans. While someone who could score 29 goals next season would be most welcome & would help to get us thro the last few days of the summer with a smile on our faces and sell a few shirts – I think we would be better off with the player the manager wants. There have been plenty of rumours as to who this “Klinsmann” type signing could be – see message boards and clubcall – I think we’d be better off getting someone who is hungry to prove himself rather than someone who has done it all and will go to the highest bidder. I won’t complain if we sign the player, but would be just as happy to get the players the manager wants & perhaps an ultimatum to Phillips to make his mind up could set the ball rolling.

 

Gillingham 1-2 Spurs – Spurs won the kickabout with a couple from Poyet. You can almost smell the Champions league…

Spurs: Hirschfeld, Carr (Leonhardsen, 53), Taricco (Jackson, 71), Bunjevcevic, Doherty (O'Donoghue, 45), Richards, Bortolozzo (Ricketts, 45), Poyet (Etherington, 80), Anderton, Iversen (Sutton, 61), Barnard.

27th July 2002 – TOPSPURS Danish Exclusive?

 

Peter Madsen – Topspurs Danish correspondent Jesper has come up with an interesting story regarding Brondby’s Peter Madsen, the Danish International striker who apparently is a player Spurs are looking at. Jesper is quite keen on Madsen “not only scores goals but plays the Spurs way & has pace”. The 24 year old has 22 goals from31 matches this season (although his scoring record before that is less prolific) and nearly signed for Inter Milan, before the skint Italians pulled out. Link: http://www.brondby-if.dk/truppen/truppen/player.asp?id=13

 

My usual sources have no knowledge of any interest in Madsen (but no one knew about Bunje or Acimovic) and Hod moves in mysterious ways – so I have posted this as a maybe, you never know & according to Danish paper Ekstra-Bladet, representatives from Tottenham, watched Brøndby and Denmark striker Peter Madsen yesterday.

26th July 2002 – Friday Bust up – Something has got to give

 

Hod vs. Pleat – Some bad shit is brewing. At the start of the week, when the proper Keane rumours started to come out for some reason Pleaty went public with a statement saying "We are keeping abreast of the Robbie Keane situation." This was a wholly inappropriate thing to say – if things were going on behind the scenes, all this kind of talk could do would be to alert other clubs and make what should be private negotiations public. Ok so the fans might know a bit more, but most people only believe any signing is going to occur when the press conference is announced. This it appeared has pissed off not only the board of THFC who you suppose would have not wanted a comment made about private negotiations and Hoddle, the manager of the club.

 

On Tuesday after the Colchester match, Hod told Sky Sports

"I am not saying whether we are interested in Robbie Keane or not.  I know who we want and where we will go to get him. It might be Robbie Keane, it might not. We'll just go about our business quietly, like we did with Jamie (Redknapp). "You don't tell people who you're after. There might be a few people giving a few bum steers, which is fine by me, because it might well detract from our actual target."

 

The first hint we got of Hoddle finally losing it with the current situation was the story in the Mirror earlier in the week (although the Mirror look like they are making it up, as today’s exclusive about Anderton going as part of the Keane deal is the rehashed story first put out by the Standard yesterday), but overnight we got the most unequivocal statement that Hoddle is not happy with things at the Lane at the moment when this came out in the Grauniad and other papers:

“If someone wants to give you a bum steer, then so be it. If people want to know, they should ask me. I have a list of players I want and Keane is not on it.'

 

This is quite clearly fuck off out of my business Pleat & probably a message to the directors that as manager of the team, he needs to be consulted more about what is going on. On this subject you have to support Hoddle. The board have been at pains to say what Hod wants he gets but it is quite clear Hoddle wants Phillips and so far they have not been able to budge Sunderland or sort a deal out, no doubt the remembering the last time that Hod wanted someone Spurs got stitched well over the odds when there was no competition by Wupert for Richards.

 

It is a tough one – on one hand the board in trying to get Keane are doing what looks like good deal for the club – either as cash or cash plus 30 year old Anderton deal, but the bottom line is that Hoddle wants the players Hoddle wants as he manages the team out on the pitch. It appears quite clear that Levy and Hod should get down and talk this one through until there is a transparent understanding between manager and board, and then they should take the issues decided and make them happen.

 

Pleat is also becoming a nuisance to everyone in his current role and while he still has a valuable role at the club identifying young talent (esp. if ENIC’s 5 year plan is to make us a profitable nursery club), he should be given the role of chief scout and removed from first team matters – as in the words of Chas n Dave, with all that Rabbit, he’s becoming a pest.

 

442 Season Preview – The topspurs views (from June) have made it into the season preview for 442 magazine & check out the name of the bloke who did the goon one, Richard Head!

 

This is what I wrote on 16th June – not much has changed then has it!

What has your team got to look forward to?
Despite the groundhog day of being ripped off by the club on the dream of success at some indeterminate time in the future, there is quite a lot to look forward to this season when compared with many of the other seasons since summer 1994. We have the makings of a decent team but just need a couple of good players in key positions - two strikers who score goals at a rate of 1 in 2 and a central midfielder in the Dave Mackay style to add some brawn to the undoubted brains. We are nearly there and ready to challenge with the best young English manager but are being held back by lack of funds to take us to the next level.

What will be your excuse for failure?
The Board, namely ENIC led by Daniel Levy. They have spent nothing on new players, signing only a couple of pensioners, a talented but lazy German who no one else wanted and freebies since they arrived in Feb 2001. For the bits and pieces that they spent getting Poyet & Ziege last summer they more than made up for by selling Walker and Young. This summer we've got Redknapp on a Bosman and Acimovic on a free, and while these are decent buys, its not the sort of ambition we were sold when the season ticket prices came out with some seats going up 41.2%.

What are your team's strengths
Finally after a couple of years of no-brain bland stuff from the Goonersaurus, we are back (like Kylie after her Eurostar trip to Paris) to being Tottenham Hotspur again. Injury interrupted what could have been a very interesting set up last season, but with Carr and Doherty back and new signings Redknapp and Acimovic in to strengthen the midfield, we will start next season with a decent squad.

What are your team's weaknesses
Pace and the ability to miss the most simple chances time and time again.


Every striker misses chances but the rate and the way our lot miss them is Samaritans stuff. Ferdinand has copped most flack for the misses in the League Cup Final, but Iversen has his moments when he is not injured. Sheringham is different as he insists on a hundred passes before he'll have a shot but when you tot it up we don't take enough of the chances we create which has been the difference between getting a point in the 11 one goal defeats we had last season. Rebrov, when he gets on reminds everyone that he is the Andrew Ridgley from the Shevchenko/Rebrov partnership.

With an attack consisting of two 36 year olds and an attacking midfielder of 35 pace is not something you readily associate with Spurs attacks and when you look at every other successful side at the moment, a pacey front line is essential.

What lesson should you learn from last season?
Don't believe in new beginnings when you have a wolf in sheep's clothing in control of the club.
Don't look for bollock brained of Tring to give a blatant penalty in the last minute of a final & don't underestimate Brad Friedel

Young player to watch?
This is an area where we have quite a few good young ones coming through. Ledley King is now an established Premiership player with an England cap, as is Simon Davies for Wales and Gary Doherty for the Republic of Ireland. All are top quality players who are going to be vital in our success in the next few season, but if you want one name that is less established but a great talent nonetheless, Anthony Gardner. Former Staffordshire youth sprint champion, 6ft 6in good ball playing defender who has already shown the ability to handle the top players and hopefully he will get his chance next season.

The chances of youth players making it through do not look that great at the moment, but Johnnie Jackson, John Sutton, Michael Malcolm & Jamie Slabber are names for the next 18 months.

Most important player this season?
Hopefully someone we have not signed yet - a fast young forward who is going to score 25 goals and get us back into the top 6

Player you would most like to get rid of?
Sherwood. The disparity between Timmah's opinion of himself and the reality grows further by the day and as the Goons sing to him "He comes from Borehamwood, he's not very f**king good". I'd go along with that.

Others include Leonhardsen (good servant but deserves first team football elsewhere), Rebrov (we want our money back), Freund (Rsol's business partner, 33 year old with two dodgy knees as well), Thelwell & Piercy (not everything young is good)

 

Have you got the right manager in place?
Yes. No question.
There is not a better manager in the world that would come to Tottenham and care so much about getting the club back to the top. In Hod we trust and even if things don't go for us with him in control, I'll stick by him, because if he cannot do it, who can?

What advice would you give the manager?
None. What would you say to God when you met him?

Well I might timidly suggest that Anderton is and will never be a top premiership central midfielder, that Davies needs to be given a run in the first team as attacking midfielder and that he could use subs a bit more but I'm happy when Hod is happy. All he needs is time and for the times when he cannot turn water to wine, he needs backing from the board rather than the current trips to Poundstretcher when its buy one OAP, get one free day.

Will he still be there in May 2003?
He'd better be - otherwise the person that gets rid of him will incur my displeasure.

Are you happy with your chairman?
No. He is timid and snide. A complete opposite to Sugarlump but with the same effect - Spurs are being held back through lack of vision from the board. ENIC claim to be putting in place plans for the long-term success of the club and while they should be commended for showing such foresight, they cannot neglect the first team.

Sugar and ENIC - Old Tories and New Labour. Hated old regime finally ousted by smooth talking mob who after 18 months in control are just the same if not worse, getting away with things that the old mob would not have even dared to consider.

We are told to be patient as they are putting all the resources into developing a new training ground which will be ready by 2006, which they reckon will attract the young best players from around the world. What they fail to realise is that if we are still without champions’ league football, all these players will leave if they are any good or ambitious. Cart before the horse with judgement day so far off there is no immediate pressure on them.

Our supporter groups have been muzzled into an organisation called the Tottenham Hotspur supporters Trust who last season were the proverbial one legged man at the arse kicking party. So far they have effectively acted as a PR vehicle for the club to justify the price increases and other money grabbing stunts. Spurs fans do not take crap for long and one supposes that if there is no activity to improve the first team over the summer someone will start to get ugly and we are back to square one. See you in December at the AGM!

Which team do you most want to beat this season?
The Woolwich Nomads from the other end of the Sistaz Road in occupied N5.

Which opposition player will get the most stick?
RSol, Bosnich and Savage if he mongrels his way back to the Premiership

Where will you finish next season?
Its the summer and I'm dreaming of winning the League on Easter Monday at the Hawthorns but I'll settle for any evidence of Spurs breaking out of the crap that fills positions 7-20 in the Premiership - winning more games that we lose and scoring more than we let in, so 6th I suppose, although its anywhere in the crap unless we sign some new forwards

25th July 2002 – Weekly Round up

 

Keane, No Keane and Hoddle – A now typical pre-season week, with rumour and conjecture about who is coming and not coming and after allowing my guard down to think that things were finally coming right for THFC with Robbie Keane on Weds, the Hoddle story appeared in the Mirror this morning.

 

Word has reached the TOPSPURS lughole that something has been set up with Leeds who are currently touring somewhere more glamorous than the home counties, and that it is now up to Keane. Who knows? Sounds plausible but that does not mean that it is true or that it will happen. Keane if he arrives will be a positive acquisition – a good player, young and with a bit of pace, but question marks over his ability to score more than 15 goals in a season and the fact that he has gone thro so many clubs in such a short time.

 

The Hoddle Mirror story was quite odd. The gist of the story was that Hod has had enough of having to offload previous managers unwanted players to raise money to buy strikers for his THFC revolution, with the implication being that as he cannot offload the crap, he has no money to spend. I keep being told from all sides that we have money (we’d better had) but the only money I’ll believe is spent money. The story did not contain any quotes and is more than likely one of a number of media people who don’t like Hoddle stirring things up, but something about it felt right. Especially when the Standard/this is London (who appear to have a good ear as to what’s going on inside the club) did a story about Anderton going to Leeds as part of the Keane deal. Was having to lose Anderton the final straw that has forced Hoddle from his hitherto dignified shop at OAP poundstretcher?

 

On balance, the stuff is probably bollocks but until someone from the club comments on it either way or Keane arrives without Anderton being offloaded it remains a potential doubt within the harmony of the management.

 

New Season Squad Numbers – Just in time for the new shirt launch today, the club have taken the sensible step of announcing the new squad numbers. No surprises with most being the same as last year & if we ever do sign Keane and/or Phillips, with Richards dangerous from set pieces along with Davies and Acimovic in the twenties, we look a good team to buy shirt numbers with!

 

1 Neil Sullivan 2 Stephen Carr 3 Mauricio Taricco 4 Steffen Fraud 5 Goran Bunjevcevic 6 Chris Perry 7 Darren Anderton 8 Timmah 9 useLes Ferdinand 10 Teddy Sheringham 11 Sergei Rebrov 12 Gary Doherty 13 Kasey Keller 14 Gustavo Poyet 15 Jamie Redknapp 16 Steffen Iversen 17 Oyvind Leonhardsen 18 Ben Thatcher

20 Jonathan Blondel 21 Milenko Acimovic 23 Christian Ziege 25 Stephen Clemence 26 Ledley King 28 Matthew Etherington 29 Simon Davies 30 Anthony Gardner 31 Alton Thelwell 36 Dean Richards

 

Thomson deal – This appeared on the wallyboard & made my blood boil. It appears to be true as the person appears to have a valid Thomson's email address:

Topic: Thomson's (1 of 10), Read 110 times 

Conf:   General Chat

From: Dionne Chamberlain

Date:   24 July 2002 04:41 PM

“This is the first time I've logged onto this site; just thought I'd let you all know that i work for Thomson's and I

get the Spurs shirts for only £20 and the chance for tickets to every game home and away!! My little sister may be the mascot at one of the games also! “

Firstly, I hope the arrogant twat gets a career ending bollocking from Thomson's for pissing off supporters on the official site but on the day that real supporters are shelling out £40 for a replica top, it makes you realise the real position of supporters in the scheme of things. Think of the “perks” Season ticket holders have remaining above the match tickets & compare.

 

Support the protest – Some of the local residents are challenging new Scumbury on the rubbish dump and naturally TOPSPURS wishes them all the best in their appeal, which will hopefully result in the Goons being relocated to the otherside of Plumstead Common & aid money being used to restore Islington to its pre-occupation finery. Would n’t it be great to see all the goons, esp. the celebrity goons such as Lord Winston, Oliver et al schlepping it out to Kent to watch Arsenal!

 

Anyway – here’s the website http://www.redcard.org.uk/

 

Bortolozzo – Who? – A new name has appeared on the team sheets for the pre-season kick abouts of Diego Bortolozzo. Apparently he is a Brazilian with an Italian passport and before we get to excited that we have unearthed the next Pele, the bloke is on trial and available on a free from Treviso. Good luck to him at Spurs but it does n’t set the pulses racing & seems another ENIC addition to the feeder club.

 

Kickabout wins – Spurs continue the pre-season kickabouts with a 3-1 win over Colchester and a 1-0 win over Bournemouth. Acimovic seems to be starting very well but Rohan Ricketts appears to have a little way to go judged by the reported comments of the manager after the Stevenage match!

 

New design for the Official Spurs Website – The official website has been given an overhaul, and just like a lot of things at THFC, although it looks and feels different – it still has the same content.

 

And Finally – Click on the link for the TOPSPURS Big Brother Vote  

21st July 2002 – Something more for the Weekend

 

Emperors New Clothes – As we sit here less than 4 weeks before the start of the season with a pool of four strikers consisting of two players over 35, another with rumoured “off the field problems” and a one in three goal tally and the other one having just handed in a transfer request – is it not reasonable to ask, who is going to score the goals next season? Goals being a major issue as to why we finished 9th and not 6th with a League Cup win. Before it was we could n’t sign players